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# Table-top discussion
## Documentation and Tutorials
1. [Enrollment](https://git.infra.nkode.tech/dkelly/pynkode/src/branch/main/docs/enrollment_diagram.md)
2. [Login](https://git.infra.nkode.tech/dkelly/pynkode/src/branch/main/docs/login_diagram.md)
3. [Cipher and Renew](https://git.infra.nkode.tech/dkelly/pynkode/src/branch/main/docs/encipher_decipher_renew_nkode.md)
4. [nKode API Tutorial 1](https://git.infra.nkode.tech/dkelly/pynkode/src/branch/main/notebooks/Enrollment_Login_Renewal_Simplified.ipynb)
5. [nKode API Tutorial 2](https://git.infra.nkode.tech/dkelly/pynkode/src/branch/main/notebooks/Enrollment_Login_Renewal_Detailed.ipynb)
6. [Dispersion Tutorial](https://git.infra.nkode.tech/dkelly/pynkode/src/branch/main/notebooks/Dispersion.ipynb)
7. [Split Shuffle](https://git.infra.nkode.tech/dkelly/pynkode/src/branch/main/notebooks/Split_Shuffle.ipynb)
## Discussion Topics
### nKode Length
[Memorized Secret](https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-3/sp800-63b.html#memsecret) `Memorized secrets SHALL be at least 8 characters in length if chosen by the subscriber. Memorized secrets chosen randomly by the CSP or verifier SHALL be at least 6 characters in length and MAY be entirely numeric.`
- The minimum entropy for a randomly chosen memorized secret is approximately 20 bits.
- A keypad with 6 keys, each having 9 properties, exceeds this requirement with a minimum 4-character nKode, providing approximately 23 bits of entropy.
### nKode Observation
- Cracking an nKode [Evil nKode](https://git.infra.nkode.tech/dkelly/evilkode)
- Replay Attack
### Dispersion Attack
### nKode Over low-bandwidth
### nKode Over Unencrypted Channel
- TOTP
- DARC
### Discussion Outcomes:
#### Attacks and controls
| Attacks | Controls |
|-------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Screen Recording Attack | Split shuffle/more icons per key than keys |
| Exfiltrated DB | Physically separated keys and icons, partial or full encryption, nKode renewal |
| *APT | *Don't wait for garbage collector, manage timeouts |
| Phishing | Dispersion Resistant Keypad, nKode policy, passkey protected keypad icons |
| *MiTM | TLS, *TOTP shuffle, *DARC |
*not implemented yet/needs another look
#### asks for Dr. Kandah
- Evil nKode screen watching/key replay
- Can we rig the shuffle in our favor? How long do we need to cache?
- shoulder surfing
- Keylogger resistance
- split shuffle is unbiased
- Dispersion Attack/Phishing attack
- CAC/passkey protection for server stored icons
- is the dispersion algorithm unbiased?
- validate the cipher
- validate the server-side values
- validate the relationship between the mask and the hash
- validate the renewal
- are these processes secure?
- Minium amount of encryption needed
- Least encryption:brute force crack with plain text database breach
- Most encryption: everything is encrypted
- Is there an secure inbetween? what stays plain text what gets encrypted with HSM?
- How long does it take to brute-force with plain and what's gained?
- how often does nkode need to be changed if at all?
- if it does need to be changed can we roll the icons? can we start with 4 icons and add icons over time?
- Low-bandwidth: how low can we go?
- TCP vs UDP
- Security of RX/TX without tls/encrypted channel
- Hypothetical: Break the cipher keys onto different machines in different locations?
- TOTP shuffle on client and server
Other stuff:
- unbiased icons/psychology